Here is my little compilation of why Jorel is Woow, a bit different from what you normally see. But this is just a little piece of the "I caught you" pie. Enjoy.




Current IP for me: 71.13.16.206

Old IP's:
September 17, 2009 at 01:00 Player connect/disconnect: pronstar 71.13.17.180
September 17, 2009 at 01:00 Player connect/disconnect: -pronst4r.hYp 71.13.17.180

It all looks familiar, 71.13.--.--- right?
Well, take a look at one of JoReL's past IP's compared to that of say...wOoW?

September 16, 2009 at 01:04 Player rename: ( from J ) .Simple.JoReL. 201.218.106.228
201.218.106.168 is the IP from wOoW, as you can see in the following screenshot.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6313/quake0356sw.jpg

Now, what does all of this jibberish mean? It means that basically this "woow" character played under the same roof as JoReL did.
It is impossible to have such a similar IP without living under the same roof. Look how similar my IP's are, the hYp IP was from about
oh...a year ago maybe? The 71.13.16.206 is from today, the only thing that changed was 1 digit in the third section of the IP, and the final
section changed completely. Why the fuck do IP's do this? This is what I found and I'm guessing fits this criteria:

Network Identifier (Network ID): A certain number of bits, starting from the left-most bit, is used to identify the network where the host or other network interface is located. This is also sometimes called the network prefix or even just the prefix.

So this means basically that...Jorel and Woow's connection are in the same location, being that the third section didn't change AT ALL between woow
and Jorel and only the fourth, and final, one did this means that they are not only in the same "location" but under the same roof.
Now, Jorel, if you want to REALLY make this hard on yourself and keep yourself in denial I can hand out the conversation You, Bird, Naruto, and Elmo had
after eRa died, before you joined [i]. Don't do it to yourself, trust me you will regret every bit of it.

Ask yourself how I got this information all you want but you and I both know I probably have more pull in this community than any forum admin
or server ref. I know more than you will ever know...so right now you have yourself a choice....
Admit that you are woow, serve your ban that you deserve, and get over the fact that no matter how many hacks you use you can't be better than me.
OR make it hard on yourself and let me make you look like the fool you are until everyone knows your woow except yourself.



*pWp*T@D*: Im gonna crash man... the "Lost Boys" movie just came on... havent seen that in 10 years
Abstract Thought: Haha alrighty. Thanks for the help sir
*pWp*T@D*: post what u feel u need to.... Ill make sure it stays open until we can actually get a conclusion
Abstract Thought: Alright cool...I want him banned really bad. That's what I'm hoping to get out of this.


*pWp*T@D*: hes an ex-hacker in denial.... shitting on ex-hackers
Abstract Thought: ._.
Abstract Thought: Couldn't have said it better myself, <3.
*pWp*T@D*: hes never served his ban yet.....
*pWp*T@D*: lets get this topic conclusive enough so he can
Abstract Thought: Sounds great.
Abstract Thought: Enjoy the movie, I'll be on tomorrow afternoon so we can discuss this.
*pWp*T@D*: np..... Pz my white negro type friend.
Abstract Thought: Hahaha
Abstract Thought: Peace.

"September 16, 2009 at 01:04 Player rename: ( from J ) .Simple.JoReL. 201.218.106.228
201.218.106.168 is the IP from wOoW, as you can see in the following screenshot.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6313/quake0356sw.jpg"

That should be conclusive enough to ban him.

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

If that statement was pointed at me, just so u know i was in the chat room with tad, when this information was being dug out of its place and sent to you... why would i lock it. im all for catching cheaters just as the next man. the commented i stated on your demo was my opinion, do i think u hack now, maybe. from the few shots i say on that demo. it really amazed me... back on topic here....


as far as all the info i have read on the woow and the IP's u posted... there could be 2 possibilities.... 1. two people playing q3 at his place. or 2 it is jorel playing on that tag. both will be fond out on this topic. Like tad said we will get a conclusion to this and find out once and for all.

Sorry pron, I moved it....


As far as the evidence.... theres so much, even beyond what even jorel knows.


Im sure, since pron has it now... he will post it as needed... if needed. But theres really no question to me if its the same person.

If you ask why this is brought up now... being it so old of a drop? A drop is a drop.... Some get pardoned after time by some clans.... but everyone has had some kind of punishment in "pub" servers.... this "IP range" has not.

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

I hope to never see you refer to a pwp member that way here again...

__Smokey__ wrote:

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

If that statement was pointed at me, just so u know i was in the chat room with tad, when this information was being dug out of its place and sent to you... why would i lock it. im all for catching cheaters just as the next man. the commented i stated on your demo was my opinion, do i think u hack now, maybe. from the few shots i say on that demo. it really amazed me... back on topic here....


as far as all the info i have read on the woow and the IP's u posted... there could be 2 possibilities.... 1. two people playing q3 at his place. or 2 it is jorel playing on that tag. both will be fond out on this topic. Like tad said we will get a conclusion to this and find out once and for all.

I didn't mention smokey, so no that was not directed at you. As far as you thinking I hack now, I honestly could give a shit. I'm here to take care of business with this child who thinks he can ruin my fun on a video game. NOW on subject please, no flame wars I don't care about what you think of me lets drop it.

I don't care if two people are playing Quake under his roof, the IP's match enough to the point that he needs to be banned...I mean nobody knows exactly if there is indeed somebody playing it under his roof on the same IP or not but regardless proper actions need to be taken..and you can figure out what those are your not retarded.

T@D wrote:

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

I hope to never see you refer to a pwp member that way here again...

It wasn't referred to anybody I just don't think it's a good way to handle things as soon as Pronstar posts something about a touchy subject, let's lock it. It's happened numerous times before, just trying to show that I am sincere in my post and not looking to just cause drama with this. But my apologies if you took this as directed toward anybody in pWp.

Edited it out of my post.

I agree.... Ask Nicked and Axel... Both banned, due to Axel.... Although Nicked, although an ass to me, did nothing wrong in game.... but Axel pushed it. Now they are both banned.


I hate range banning when it effects others... and Jorels would effect 4 ppl... but they all live int he same house.

The result in this topic will be posted in 2k ref, and Im sure 2k will also read it here.

pronst4r wrote:

T@D wrote:

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

I hope to never see you refer to a pwp member that way here again...

It wasn't referred to anybody I just don't think it's a good way to handle things as soon as Pronstar posts something about a touchy subject, let's lock it. It's happened numerous times before, just trying to show that I am sincere in my post and not looking to just cause drama with this. But my apologies if you took this as directed toward anybody in pWp.

Edited it out of my post.

This inst era Topics dont get locked that fast... (since pornfish is sleeping)

T@D wrote:

pronst4r wrote:

T@D wrote:

pronst4r wrote:And for future reference, so this does not get locked as soon as I post it by some
power-driven ref/admin/child:

I hope to never see you refer to a pwp member that way here again...

It wasn't referred to anybody I just don't think it's a good way to handle things as soon as Pronstar posts something about a touchy subject, let's lock it. It's happened numerous times before, just trying to show that I am sincere in my post and not looking to just cause drama with this. But my apologies if you took this as directed toward anybody in pWp.

Edited it out of my post.

This inst era Topics dont get locked that fast... (since pornfish is sleeping)

Yeah, well it wasn't the right thing to say...tired. That's my excuse :F, exhaustion. I'm going to sleep, have a good night/morning and have fun watching your movie. I'll think of you before I sleep tad...creepy fetish dreams of having sex with dead fish.


<3.

Gew?

T@D wrote:Gew?

Fine...forget it.

Wipe it off and go back to bed.............. tiny.

BTW... To be fair... this is in Caught because the IP dropped.... its "suspected" that is Jorel....


If it is or isnt.. This IP is still a caught cheater...

Hey, Hey! I was not sleeping! I was getting drunk! Plus, I always believed the woOw theory, and I think Jorel is pretty stupid, and whoever gave him admin at eRa is stupid as well. Also, I am drunk.

HURRAY FOR BEING DRUNK!

I iz slighly buzzed.. gonna go take another shot and grab another beer. brb

also ya... old news..

Beer before liquor, you've never been sicker.

Lazarus McDeathsinger wrote:Hey, Hey! I was not sleeping! I was getting drunk! Plus, I always believed the woOw theory, and I think Jorel is pretty stupid, and whoever gave him admin at eRa is stupid as well. Also, I am drunk.

I almost wanted to lock this topic to make sure that pornfish couldnt edit his post after he sobered up...

Then I remembered he had admin here and was trying to trick me to lock this so that I would try and make sure that he would not lock this topic.

Well, Pornfish... I know you maybe drunk, but I believe that you are sober, pornfish, but posting you are drunk so I will read this topic thinking you are drunk, pornfish, and saying things that you, personally..... pornfish.... would lock a topic for when it came to the drama extent of said things... that were said..

So to you I say... Qué hace significo?

p1x3L wrote:Beer before liquor, you've never been sicker.

you ever done moonshine? hardest shit there is... i had 5 beers then did a biiig shot of that shit.. didnt even come close to puking. i can hold my shit noob!

I do not think this topic has drama. And why would I edit my post? I've said Jorel is stupid before, and I've said it to his face! It should be somewhere in era...

What I do know, however, is that you somehow implied that I should lock this topic, because you do not want to... or something. So here, locked!