k1llampt wrote:in reply to t@d's edited section, lol, we are intelligent life compared to anything we know. Do you consider a parasite to be intelligent? Just because we have impulses and such faults does not mean we are unintelligent, it just means that we are human

ghettoelf wrote:you claim to be athiest i have one question for you
How can you claim something does not exist without its existance to begin with?

Somehow wrote:

ghettoelf wrote:you claim to be athiest i have one question for you
How can you claim something does not exist without its existance to begin with?

first, sorry for quoting someone, but his post were far away from here :p

ghetto has some pretty good argument here. As long as you can think of something, it makes it existing. You could think of a 1 thousand arms dog without having any chances to encounter one anywhere. But still, when you thought of that 1 thousand armed dog, you made is existing through your minds. Therefore, you can't deny god's existance, neither you can affirm God is an actual living thing or anything somewhat beeing something in our reality more than an idea. I've written something that prooved, in my way of thinking, that god were a nonsense, because of it's existance's essence.
God is known to be flawlessness, to be everything, everywhere, to be in each living thing. It's a pretty known fact that all energies have its opposite in the universe. Universe balance, or whatever you call it. If god is everything (which is already far over our thinking skill and understanding), then tell me how could you think of it's opposite ? I mean, something that doesn't even exist on our mind, because it's nothing. And you can't call it nothing. It has no name. It's not even blank. Because blank is something. You can't make such things exist, even in your mind, because non existance is it's living essence. We're admitting that God has no opposite, no contrary force. There is another nonsense. Anything that exists, have an opposite. You can think of God, but that's not enough to make him a beeing. If he was existing, you should be able to think of its opposite.

tool wrote:Religion is the most controversial subject that will never be fully won in an argument. If you're Atheist, you will throw intelligent remark after intelligent remark at religious people and they will simply twist your words to coincide with the Bible or "God's Divine Plan" and whatnot. Neither side will ever win. You cannot prove or disprove an omnipotent being, just like you can't prove or disprove that there is an infinite amount of energy in the universe, or that ghosts roam the earth. It's all based on imagination, hypotheses, personal philosophies, and the dictation of your philosophies.

I guess since I'm Atheist, I must have no faith or imagination, and my personal philosophies must be wrong, because they don't coincide with God's morals. That's why I don't believe in a God, not because I can't, but because I don't like thinking my life is in the hands of some all-powerful, all-knowing, egomaniac who lets war, famine, disease, destruction, rape, murder, poverty, crime, and corruption plague our world.

"Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man. No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this." - George Carlin, R.I.P.