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Global warming. It's a serious trend, that if addressed and taken care of has been proven to be one of the proven end-all's to the world as we know it..... right?


BULLSHIT. It's a bout time these asshats were exposed for that they truely are...... liars. All of you that believe in this global warming movement, you might wanna take a seat on this one..

Al Gore... the front runner in this global warming BS, making a movie, winning awards, being held as this supreme humanitarian is full of shit. All of these process and events to raise money, government grants, tax dollars spent were wasted to fix a problem that dosent even exist. And whats worse is.... they have known for yearssssssss that it didn't exist, but they kept the "show on the road" any way.

Basically what has happened is some hacker has hacked email accounts and has made public thousands of emails of scientists and even new media members admitting to changing result numbers to continue to back their "proof" of global warming.

So I dont use to much info from the news report... Ill post it for you all to read...

With the UN's International Conference on Climate Change in Copenhagen only weeks away, recent revelations have thrown a monkey wrench in the plans of global warming activists to implement a worldwide treaty which would impose costly sanctions on the industrialized west and effect a massive wealth transfer to developing nations. The Obama administration had appeared willing to sign away a great deal of U..S sovereignty and transfer significant power over U.S. citizens to an unelected international bureaucracy, but the latest news may make it impossible to use anthropogenic global warming as a pretext for expanding the power of the administration's transnational socialist allies.

It started with the reluctant acknowledgment by many climatologists that despite past opposition, the claims of skeptics that the Earth has actually been cooling were essentially true. German scientists from the Liebnitz Institute for Marine Studies and the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology led the way, admitting that "global warming is taking a break," referring to the increasingly widespread acknowledgment that for the last decade temperatures have remained stable and that over the last 40 years the level of overall warming is considerably lower than previously claimed.

Even "Global Warming Central" at Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research had to admit that their past figures were suspect and that rather than a 0.2% temperature increase over the past decade their adjusted figures suggested only a 0.07% temperature increase during that period. Hadley has always been a leading source for global warming activism and their computer models and data analysis techniques are being looked at with increasing skepticism as they remain one of the few climate research groups still reporting any warming at all over the last 10 years.

This week Hadley became the center of a storm of controversy over "climategate" when a hacker accessed their internal network and made over a thousand emails and documents public, revealing what looks like a concerted effort to misrepresent the results of their research, manufacture bogus data, suppress data, tweak models to produce desired results, and carry out smear campaigns against climate change skeptics. As the story unfolds some are describing it as one of the greatest scientific scandals of the modern era. As the scandal has unfolded the reputations of some of the most prominent climate scientists have been placed in doubt and ties have been exposed to journalists and media outlets who seem to have been complicit in the conspiracy.

Reports from the UN's International Panel on Climate Change which were used as the basis for hysteria about global warming were based primarily on data processed by Hadley scientists, data which has now been acknowledged to be incorrect by the authors as well as being exposed as possibly fraudulent. It seems possible that a cabal of politically motivated scientists directly manipulated the IPCC to produce reports based on bogus data to advance a globalist agenda.

Even former Vice President Al Gore, who has filled the role of High Priest for the global warming movement, admitted earlier this month that the science was not entirely convincing, that C02 probably did not cause the global warming he had previously claimed, and that the fight against pollution was more a spiritual than scientific one.

President Obama and other world leaders have been backing away from full support for UN climate regulation plans and it looks like the Copenhagen conference may turn into a debate over the legitimacy of global warming theory rather than the triumphant enshrining of a massive UN power grab as originally intended. With the new revelations of fraud and error fueling more widespread skepticism, Europeans have joined Americans in their growing opposition to draconian economic restrictions based on a suspect and politically-driven climate change theory. If President Obama does go to Copenhagen he may find himself in the middle of a firestorm of controversy which he and his party cannot afford going into an election year.


Suck on that fuckers. Wasting the worlds money when we have REAL problems that need to be addressed. A pathetic reminder that noone "cares" truely from the higher levels about me, or you, or the world.... it's all about money. Whats really sad is after finding this EXTREME news out... I had to search for it. This should be front page news EVERYWHERE... but it's not. Why? Cause theres no money in it if dis-proven. The media, government, and part of the science community can piss off.


You say "go green" I say "go fuck yourself"

T@D wrote:

"The highest global surface temperature in more than a century of instrumental data was recorded in the 2005 calendar year in the GISS annual analysis. However, the error bar on the data implies that 2005 is practically in a dead heat with 1998, the warmest previous year." So let me understand this properly. 2005 had the highest readings in 100 years, except almost being an exact match to 1998. So, in 1998 they were high... obviously were lower 1999 - 2004. Then in 2005 they rise again, but then go lower 2006 - 2008? So basically global warming chooses to only rear it's ugly head every so often? I know I know... El Niño. And I guess fossil fuels are to blame for that as well. There is NO proof of a constant rise in temperature due to emissions of fossil fuels. None.

"So let me understand this properly. 2005 had the highest readings in 100 years, except almost being an exact match to 1998. So, in 1998 they were high... obviously were lower 1999 - 2004. Then in 2005 they rise again, but then go lower 2006 - 2008?"

I have to study for exams so ill make this short >_< ill assume u were taling about http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2005/

Actually no, if you look at the date of the article at the bottom:

"This 2005 summation was first posted on-line Dec. 15, 2005, and discussed the 2005 meteorological year (December-November). Minor revisions were made on Jan. 12, 2006, so that it instead discussed the 2005 calendar year." So there is nothing about 06-08

Sorry then, I didn't scroll. Thanks Spooner. But I can still stick with the 99-04. 5 year span. 5 years of that the number did not rise creating a new record. I find it odd that it "spikes" but then lowers if its a true science of perpetual events.

So your stance is that global warming does not exist? Or is it that it does exist but it is not due to man's actions?

Global warming, as brought to is by the politicians, the right wing, extremists, and tree huggers.... does not exist (In my opinion). Man made global warming, that will sooner or later, increase taxes; force companies to use alternative fuels, and try to have the fossil fuels cut down 85% by 2050 (as suggested bu Al Gore) is a myth. Again, in my opinion.

The natural, untamable, change the earth is having temperature wise has basically happened pre-data..... yes, I believe in the worlds evolution. I believe the "globe is warming".... but it has nothing to do with, or at least, very little to do with anything man-made or man generated.

But so far, the respectable sources you brought to the table were mainly to put in question if the earth is warming at all, not that man's actions are warming it or not. And even those studies do not deny that man's actions are warming it up, they claim that "most likely" that is what is happening.

Science is never exact, the strongest hypothesis is the one that is backed up with the most data. Right now, the scientific community backs up global warming because it's the most plausible and reasonable hypothesis. None of them deny the natural cycles, they all acknowledge them and they are part of the hypothesis.